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Overall opinions on DB Super?
Topic Started: Nov 26 2016, 09:59 PM (5,995 Views)
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Nov 28 2016, 06:41 PM
The first two sagas of GT would automatically have an advantage though because they are completely new material. You could skip watching the first two arcs of Super and it wouldn't matter because we have the movies. I understand your point of your view but idk this is just is how see it
Wait how does that even work? Having a blueprint and more time to do everything makes everything so ridiculously worse? The first two arcs aren't just a little less obsessing looking they're outright terrible when they had no reason to be, they had a simple job, just take the source material and elaborate a bit more on it. While you can argue it was unlikely to have gotten better than the movies, it certainly shouldn't have become how terrible it was. The FnF arc didn't need to gotten like that, ever, and it's rather insulting to the madoka and gurren Lagaan movies to imply that remakes are doomed to being so terrible that iirc you described that arc as an insult. Even then, if the problem actually was that they were remaking this... Maybe they shouldn't have remade it?

And frankly we still had to sit through a filler arc before getting to Zamasu and with that an ending so terrible that it got ThePrinceofSaiyans to drop the series, (and he was patient for a pretty long time) even if we skip the first two arcs like how people say we need to play 30+ hours of a jrpg before we can give an opinion of it.
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I don't disagree that the retelings are a part of Super and that the RF saga sucked and didn't have to be made. I'm just saying when I compare Super to GT I feel I would rather use new stuff Super itself has to offer. This has nothing to do with whether the retellings are good or not

And I've honestly watched up to about 100 episodes of other animes before deciding to drop them. So I owe it to Super to do the same

It's just my point of view. I said I understand your guys point of view so why can't you guys accept mine? It's like you guys are trying to force your hate for this series on other people. I know everyone is entitled to express their opinion but I can't go on dbzf anymore without reading a million comments trashing Super like it's just complete crap that has nothing to enjoy and trying to make sure nobody enjoys it. I can't go into the Super section especially and take any of it seriously. I never would've expected to feel such a toxic atmosphere on dbzf. I never would've thought THIS would be the place someone would be made to feel bad about liking something. This is THE worst reception I've seen anywhere on the Internet for this series. All I see nowadays on here is a bunch of bitter people who are impossible to satisfy
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My Dear Melancholy,

"You guys are forcing your hate on the series"

*praised Super the last 2 weeks*

Yeah I definitely hate the series. When I was one of Super's biggest supporters.

I see your point of view. But it's still picking and chosing and not accepting the overall series. Because what if someone didn't see the movies? You can't skip them and know everything. That's the flaw of the way of thinking you have (not knocking it but it's kinda a bad way to see it tbh).

Super strengths are slice of life and short term arcs. When they expand their arcs the series tend to get repeated and becomes a shell of itself.
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Nov 28 2016, 09:37 PM
I don't disagree that the retelings are a part of Super and that the RF saga sucked and didn't have to be made. I'm just saying when I compare Super to GT I feel I would rather use new stuff Super itself has to offer. This has nothing to do with whether the retellings are good or not

And I've honestly watched up to about 100 episodes of other animes before deciding to drop them. So I owe it to Super to do the same

It's just my point of view. I said I understand your guys point of view so why can't you guys accept mine? It's like you guys are trying to force your hate for this series on other people. I know everyone is entitled to express their opinion but I can't go on dbzf anymore without reading a million comments trashing Super like it's just complete crap that has nothing to enjoy and trying to make sure nobody enjoys it. I can't go into the Super section especially and take any of it seriously. I never would've expected to feel such a toxic atmosphere on dbzf. I never would've thought THIS would be the place someone would be made to feel bad about liking something. This is THE worst reception I've seen anywhere on the Internet for this series. All I see nowadays on here is a bunch of bitter people who are impossible to satisfy
First of all, I'm not attacking you in any way, and I don't want anyone to think I'm attacking them because they're enjoying something I can't. The fact that you can like something I find boring and need to laugh at in order to enjoy it's in fact, a good thing and an advantage. Is that clear to everyone? Liking something is good, and the fact that the only way for me to enjoy it is to make fun of it like it's MST3000 should not matter to anyone of us who is enjoying it unironically.

It is fine to like DBS and I don't want to give any other impression of that when I'm talking. Please keep this in mind when I'm talking about it.

I am disagreeing with you on this and I disagree with leaving large parts of the series out for when we compare series on an arc by arc basis (comparing one arc to another arc is fine, heck we can compare the piccolo arc to piccolo jr arc if we want). If you mean simply comparing original stories I can see that, you're free to compare Black arc to the Black Star Dragon Ball or super 17 if you really want, and that can bring in valuable information. I simply disagree with leaving the first two out as of they didn't happen when comparing shows.

You don't owe anything to a company or any fiction as I see it personally but aside from that, ok. You prefer to watch allot, up to 100 episodes at times, I meanwhile drop most shows by the first episode if I'm disliking or even just not that interested in what I see and in any case. And just as someone can wait until 40 hours or until the end to judge it and have a valid opinion, you shouldn't otherwise hold it against others for judging it, especially after they watched 13 or 24 or 36 episodes. And I think that's the message you're sending to some, certainly did to me, the message that watching 60+ episodes isn't enough to have a valid opinion on this.
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Only thing I hate is the fact the quality could be better and have Goku more like how he was in Z and lastly fixed the power scaling. Other then that, I like it.
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